
How to have a nuanced conversation | A conversation with Drew Perkins
In this episode, Shane sits down with Drew Perkins, President Director of ThoughtStretcher Education and host of the ThoughtStretchers…
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In this episode, Shane Leaning sits down with John Taylor, Director of Learning, Teaching and Innovation at Cranleigh School and one of the principal architects of the Extended Project Qualification (EPQ). They explore how a small pilot programme exploring science ethics has evolved into a globally recognised qualification with over 50,000 students annually. John shares insights into project-based learning at scale, how universities now offer grade discounts for EPQ students, and why this qualification is particularly valuable for international schools and multilingual learners.
Shane and John discuss the practical challenges of supporting teachers in transitioning from content delivery to mentorship roles, how to assess diverse project outcomes fairly, and John's concept of "minovation" - incremental innovation that creates lasting educational change. This conversation offers valuable insights for school leaders considering project-based learning initiatives and demonstrates how inquiry-based approaches can work effectively within existing qualification systems whilst developing critical thinking skills and student autonomy.
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Shane Leaning, an organisational coach based in Shanghai, supports school leaders globally. Passionate about empowment, he is the author of the best-selling 'Change Starts Here.' Shane is a leading educational voice in the UK, Asia and around the world.
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